Scott Fein (L’75) & Andy Ayers (L’05): A New York State of Rights
August 30, 2018

Two generations of Georgetown Law graduates: Scott Fein (Lā75), now chair of the advisory board of the Government Law Center at Albany Law School and senior advisor to the Rockefeller Institute of Government's Center for Law & Policy Solutions, and Andrew Ayers (Lā05), now assistant professor and director of the Government Law Center at Albany Law School, discuss the roles that state constitutions can play in the era of a shifting Supreme Court at a Rockefeller Institute forum in July.
Thirty years separate their law degrees, but Scott Fein (Lā75) and Andy Ayers (Lā05) share a philosophy ā and a project.
Vietnam and Watergate were current events when Scott Fein (Lā75) was a Georgetown Law student, and it seemed to him the school āwas the center of the universe,ā he says.
Andy Ayers (Lā05) arrived a generation later, one year into the War on Terror. Ayers had been working for Human Rights Watch and was in the Empire State Building on September 11, 2001; he was interested in policy making and saw Georgetown as a tool to sharpen his effectiveness.
Today, both men have traded the nationās capital for the New York capital. Ayers is director of the Government Law Center, a think tank at Albany Law School, while Fein, a partner at Whiteman Osterman and Hanna, chairs the centerās Board of Advisors.
Together, they are the most public faces of the centerās āDual Constitutionsā project, designed to educate New Yorkers about the considerable protections offered by the state constitution ā particularly in the areas of immigrantsā rights, aid to the poor, reproductive rights, criminal law, public education, health care and environmental protection.
While the project is nonpartisan, both Fein and Ayers acknowledge that it was spurred in part by a perception that federal protections are being rolled back in many of those areas.
āWe arenāt trying to weaponize (the state constitution),ā Fein says. āWeāre simply saying that if youāre here, youāre wrapped in all of our rights, liberties and entitlements.ā
Fein and Ayers met in 2016, when Ayers interviewed for the post at Albany Law.
He had worked in the New York Solicitor Generalās office since 2007, after clerking for then-Second Circuit Judge Sonia Sotomayor and U.S. District Judge Gerald Lynch in Manhattan, and was impressed by Feinās āincredible exuberance and energy,ā as well as his range and connections.
āBeyond his knowledge of the state constitution, he knows everybody in Albany,ā Ayers says. āHaving him as the chair of our advisory board shows the reach of the Georgetown network, even long after graduation, even far from D.C.ā
Fein had counseled two New York governors before going into private practice in 1983 and remains active on state advisory boards. He has been honored for his pro bono work for the ACLU, most notably the SUNY Oneonta case (the longest litigated civil rights case in American history, recounted in the documentary āBrothers of the Black Listā), which led New Yorkās highest court to recognize a right to sue the state for its employeesā constitutional torts.
He credits much of his philosophy to Georgetown Law and to professors like Sherman Cohn (Fā54, Lā57, LL.M.ā60) and Nathan Lewin, an adjunct who taught constitutional law. āAt the time, the concept of tikkun olam ā a Hebrew phrase for ārepairing the worldā ā was emphasized, if not in word, then in deed,ā Fein says. āGeorgetown was unambiguous about the importance of making things better.ā
In Ayers, he recognized a kindred spirit.
āAndy and I shared the same experience ā a Georgetown Law education that allowed us to appreciate the law as the most effective vehicle for protecting fundamental rights and promoting social change,ā Fein says. āHis commitment to public service was reminiscent of so many of my colleagues at Georgetown, 30 years earlier ā and as it turns out, he had been mentored by a good friend of mine.ā
That friend was Professor Philip Schrag, who had invited Ayers to join the Public Interest Law Scholars program.
It was Schrag āwho told me, āthink about the states,āā Ayers says. āIn D.C., itās easy to lose sight of the importance that state and local governments can have in peopleās lives. Because itās smaller, you can make a big difference, a lot sooner.ā
Other professors ā among them, Peter Edelman, Girardeau Spann and Julie OāSullivan ā also emphasized real-world consequences of legal decisions but one comment by Schrag āreally drove the point home for me,ā Ayers says.
āIn Civil Procedure, discussing a case, he said, āI was wondering why the lawyers did it this way ā so I called them,āā Ayers says. āThat blew my mind ā that you could do that. That this was not just a page in a book, but real life.
āThatās a big part of what I try to convey to my own students, now,ā he says. āThat this is happening in the real world, and you can get yourself involved.ā